PW 431: Takeaways from dating a dishonest monogamist

lion-lolcatMinx and LustyGuy cover the lessons learned from dating a dishonest monogamist 
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Introduction

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1:00 Announcements

3:30 Poly in the news

6:40 Topic: What lessons to take away from dating a dishonest monogamist

SpiderGirl calls in to share a story and ask a question: when you date someone who doesn’t tell you he has a girlfriend/fiancée until after you hook up with him but really want the poly to work, what is the takeaway?

  • Date your species. Don’t date or fall in love with monogamists. Before you hook up, ask about other partners, and give yourself the option of passing if the person is monogamous and seeing someone else.
  • Don’t date someone who requires change. As I’m sure you’ve figured out, dating someone with the hopes of changing him is like trying to teach a pig to dance: it wastes your time and annoys the pig. It’s much wiser to date polyamorists or people already self-identifying as non-monogamous than to try to convert monogamists.
  • Don’t date someone who is lying to someone else. You may be “the only one he can be honest with” now, but lying to a partner is a character flaw that doesn’t tend to be person-specific. If he lies to her, he’ll eventually lie to you.
  • Don’t blame someone who has been denied agency. I don’t believe you fell into this trap, but it’s common in these instances to blame the girlfriend/fiancée/wife for not understanding him, not letting him be himself, and so on. It is remarkably unfair to blame the person who has been denied agency, so please, be respectful and don’t do it.
  • Do what you love. When it comes to dating, be sure to join dating sites that allow you to specify that you’re non-monogamous, but in general, the best dating advice we have is to engage in activities that you love. Live your life, have fun, be the best you you can be.

27:45 Wrap Up

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PW 421: Poly didn’t work, but I still want it!

360_degrees_suckHow to recover from an epic poly fail

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1:00 Host chat and announcements

1:45 Poly in the News

4:45 Topic: Poly didn’t work, but I still want it!

Diva and the Don called in to talk about moving from being swingers to poly that just didn’t work out due to issues with faithfulness (on his part) and micromanaging (on her part). They ask how to move forward with polyamory and get past this lack of trust and drama. LustyGuy and Minx agree:

  • Fix your relationship first. Work out your trust issues on your own. Work on your own happiness first.
  • Own your own shit and let him own his.
  • Be the expert on yourself and let Don be the expert on himself.
  • Address your history of cheating and don’t try polyamory until you both have 100% trust in this area.

25:45 Wrap Up

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PW 318: The New Monogamy

Dr. Tammy Nelson shares how the world of online dating, social media and texting has changed marriage and monogamy

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Introduction

Under-18 warning and redirection to Scarleteen

2:00 The New Monogamy with Dr. Tammy Nelson

Dr. Tammy Nelson, therapist and author of a soon-to-be-released book on The New Monogamy, answers questions on the new state of monogamy:

  • Has marriage gone out of fashion?
  • How has online dating affected marriage?
  • Do those who identify as monogamous need to expect infidelity?
  • Are Facebook and texting to blame for affairs?
  • Are affairs actually good for a marriage?
  • What is the new monogamy?

31:40 Feedback

Jess writes in to thank PW for helping her poly family through the introduction of HPV and the tools to help the group be level-headed and talk openly and honestly.

Wrapup

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PW 310: Poly by orienation vs poly by situation

Does one have to self-identify as poly in advance of a situation in order for polyamory to work?

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Introduction

1:00 News and host chat

2:00 Topic: Poly by Orientation vs Poly by Situation

Should I be poly? This question is often asked, and a recent BlogHer essay questioning whether monogamy is the ultimate form of love or a restraint on one’s sexual freedom is better brought up the question: is polyamory a solution to a relationship with no intimacy?

  • Is poly of zero benefit to a monogamous-identified partner of someone who would like to be poly?
  • Does “Poly by Situation” ever work?
  • 11:20 What is required for a Poly by Situation effort to work out: every partner is fully committed, everyone voices their fears and doubts at every turn, no veto power

13:15 Feedback

26:30 Wrap up
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PW 309: the Myth of Sex Addiction

Sex addiction as a celebrity diagnosis is all the rage. But is it real?

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Introduction

1:00 News and host chat

5:00 Interview: the Myth of Sex Addiction

Dr. David Ley is a clinical psychologist and the author of a new book on sex addiction to be released next week!

  • First book was Insatiable Wives about permissive female infidelity and the hotwife lifestyle
  • Why the book was necessary
  • Is “sex addiction” just a label for celebrities who have more sex than me?
  • If sex is a biological imperative, how can it be an addiction?
  • Why has this arisen in our culture now, this idea that people can be addicted to sex? What brought this about?
  • TigressBooks asks: but is this behavior typical of alpha male? Not pathological, but personality type?
  • Nissyen asks: there are lots of compulsive behaviors. Does sex gets the addiction label because it’s so culturally taboo to be promiscuous?
  • Irish8m asks: isnt any action/behavior done to a degree that pushes other aspects of life out of balance an “addiction,” including sex?

References: the History of Nymphomania

39:00 Happy Poly Moment

  • Kit shares a happy poly moment about his wife getting a date she wanted
  • Funny poly moment from Clint and Kat in New Zealand

44:00 Wrapup


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Gingrich: Don’t destroy non-monogamous family values

Today, the news broke that one of Newt Gingrich’s ex-wives is going public with the information that he had once asked her for an open marriage.

I really can’t speak as to the repercussions of this publicity on his political career, such as it is. I suspect that the folks who like Gingrich will continue to like and defend him, and those who don’t (I count myself among those) will use this as fodder to denounce his suitability as a Republican presidential candidate.

What is worth commenting on is Gingrich’s reported approach to open marriage. According to the story in the Washington Post, Marianne Gingrich, Newt’s second wife, reports that after conducting a six-year affair with Callista Bisek, Newt proposed an open marriage in which he would be partners with both Marianne and Callista.

Marianne turned down the offer, and Bisek became Gingrich’s third wife.

This case is high-profile because of Gingrich’s potential presidential candidacy and perhaps also because of his steadfast promotion of family values, which presumably do not include having a long-term affair. Additionally, as the Post points out:

The House speaker who pilloried President Bill Clinton for his affair with Monica Lewinsky was himself having an affair at the time.

So there is a strong element of hypocrisy to the situation as well.

Newt, yer doin’ it WRONG

But even that isn’t what bothers me most here, on this blog devoted to polyamory. What I’d like to tell Gingrich is that open marriage and other forms of non-monogamy are not your back door for when you get caught. Non-monogamy in its many forms takes a tremendous amount of communication and work to ensure the happiness of all parties involved, and it is most decidedly not an escape hatch for a guy caught with his trousers down.

What Gingrich offered his wife Marianne wasn’t an option; it was an ultimatum: share me or get lost. And I can assure you that almost every instance of the “relationship broken; add more people” approach has failed. This was not a conscious decision made with the full knowledge and consent of all parties involved; this was a cheater backed into a corner seeking to extract himself from an unhappy marriage.

And in that, he succeeded. It just annoys me that he used a proposal of open marriage as a blunt object to rid himself of his second wife. Just cheat, divorce, remarry your mistress and be done with it. Don’t drag our hardworking model of non-monogamy into it. Some of us actually work at this, and you’re sullying the institution of non-monogamous marriage.

PW 281: Infidelity will keep us together

What do you think of Dan Savage’s NYT article on non-monogamy?

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Introduction

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2:45 Book review

PW book reviewer Kurt review’s Kathy Labriola’s Love in Abudance, a Counselor’s Guide to Opening Relationships The book deals with poly effects on current relationships, including dealing with demotion, displacement and intrusion.

8:20 Poly movie review: La Belle Epoque

PW film reviewer Joreth reviews the 1992 Spanish poly-ish film, la Belle Epoque.

15:30 Topic: Dan Savage’s take on infidelity

Discussing the huge, seven-page article in the New York Times exploring Dan Savage’s take on infidelity and the role it plays in keeping monogamous relationships together.

32:45 Feedback

  • John from Lacy responds to 276, “Okay” is a four-letter word, claiming responsibility for communication falls on all parties
  • Emily calls in from a smallish Midwestern college town and asks about Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell in her relationship. If she isn’t comfortable with it, what should she do?

Josh calls in to muse on the question of why we get married to begin with. What is your reason?

45:15 Wrap-up

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PW 278: Joys of sexting

Is sexting cheating?

Joys of sexting and the pyramid of cheating–is sexting cheating to you?

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Introduction

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2:00 Announcements

  • Need to check out your date’s background? There’s an app for that: http://www.intelius.com/mobile For date check; “sleaze detector” (criminal records), property ownership, compatibility, interests (social networks) and living situation
  • New UK poly resource, Polytical, and a page with all the poly events in the UK

4:05 Topic: Joy of sexting and the pyramid of cheating

After Weiner’s explicit sexting dilemma, the question is out: is sexting cheating? Whether you’re poly, mono or something within the Venn diagram, consider where YOU draw the line of cheating. And where does the line between fantasy and reality come with online interaction and real-life flirting? How is sexting different from chatting with friends on multi-player online games?

  • fantasizing about movie stars, people you know
  • watching porn
  • web cam girls
  • phone sex line
  • flirting at a bar
  • flirting via text
  • chatting on IM
  • sexting
  • sending racy pix
  • deep emotional conversation – in same city or not
  • meeting the person IRL
  • kink
  • seeing a pro dom
  • surfing pix on kink or porn sites without chatting
  • what about surfing FetLife

24:00 Feedback


MidnightCreate offers feedback on episode 275 on introverts vs. extroverts: a book called The Shyness Solution by Catherine Gillet, L.C.S.W.

Thanks

Thanks to Johnathan and John for their donations. And super-duper-wooper thanks to Joseph for the wonderful gift of tickets to Burning Man!

Wrap-up

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Poly Weekly 247: What’s OK in poly?

Joreth, Pepper and Franklin discuss what’s “OK” in poly

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Introduction and host chat
Intro, under-18 warning and re-direction to http://www.scarleteen.com; friend us on Twitter or Facebook, call 206-202-POLY with comments or discuss your own topics at the forums.

Announcements

  • Forked Tongue novel
  • Study participants 18+ willing to fill out a questionnaire and do a saliva sample contact salivaresearch@umich.edu or 734-763-7121

Topic: What’s OK in poly?
Today’s topic is courtesy of Friggin’ Limey, who wrote in with the questions:

  • Is it normal, or even OK, for me to feel the need to want to see someone else whenever my wife has a date with a lover?
  • When she goes on a date I do ask her if they had sex or not. Does this sound reasonable?
  • And from MinVanLib on Twitter: If the root of jealousy is insecurity, does one need to end the relationship to get secure first?

Wrap-up
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Poly Weekly #224: Modern Poly

This week’s Poly Weekly #224: Modern Poly

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0:00 Introduction and host chat
Intro, under-18 warning and re-direction to www.scarleteen.com; friend me on Twitter and answer questions about what you want on the show, call 206-202-POLY with comments or discuss your own topics at the forums at http://forum.polyweekly.com.

Announcements

  • • “PolyApathy”- unwillingness or lack of interest in “doing the work” within a poly family
  • Toronto, Ontario, poly group: the Toronto Ethical Lovers Group meets on the second Wednesday of every month at the University of Toronto Women’s Centre from 7:30pm to 10:00 p.m.

Miss Poly Manners: Poly for the Holidays
Advice on navigating the holidays with the poly family. Visit Miss Poly Manners Googe site or the Miss Poly Manners MySpace page

Interview: Modern Poly
A chat with Mai Li, the PR branch of the new Modern Poly website, a place for poly activists, organizers and general poly folks seeking education to gather.

Feedback
Poly Weekly 221, This American Life
Crispin writes in to dispute “everyone hates cheaters” comment

Poly Weekly 222, Metamours, Change and Insecurity
More suggestions for “needing a cuddle” from Vicky, who suggests “mimosa” and George, who suggests “cuddlesie”

Thank you!
Big thanks to this week’s donors, Jennifer and Patrick! You guys rock!

Wrap-up
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