A quick reminder for next month’s Poly Weekly Book Club. Since it turns out that the city location isn’t convenient for most of the group, I’ve scoped out a new one that will be closer for most regular PWBookers:
122 N. Marion St.
Oak Park, IL 60301
It’s 1/2 block from the Oak Park Metra stop and 1 1/2 blocks from the Harlem Green line stop. Metered parking lots are available on South Avenue and next to the shop. It just opened up two weeks ago, and they have a great room in the back with big tables for us. Menu includes coffee, Italian gelatto and even a few panini. They’re thrilled to have a book club meeting there, and it’s a lovely, quiet place for us!
Wednesday, September 3rd, 6:00-9:00 p.m.
Book: If the Buddha Dated (and please come on out to meet with poly folks, even if you haven’t read the book!)
Please RSVP so I’ll know to look for you or if you have any questions.
206-202-POLY listener comments
It’s that time again! Grab, borrow, rent or steal a copy of this month’s book club selection, If the Buddha Dated: a Handbook for Finding Love on a Spiritual Path. Thanks to Mary for the suggestion! This month’s book isn’t specifically poly, but it is about creating a whole spiritual you so that you can go out and date happily.
Where: choosing a new location–stay tuned!
When: Wednesday, September 3rd, 6:00-9:00 p.m.
How: Go to http://tinyurl.com/5st8ze and order a copy, or check with your local library, read it, and come with comments
Why: because we all need a little spiritual introspection every now and then
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0:00 Introduction and host chat
Intro, under-18 warning and re-direction to www.scarleteen.com; friend me on Twitter and answer questions about what you want on the show, call 206-202-POLY with comments.
1:30 Announcement: Poly Weekly forums!
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Minx will miss this month’s Many Loves seminar in Chicago, but only because she’s filming the porn episode for the Midwest Teen Sex Show!
If you’d like to discuss poly books, check out Joreth’s Shelfari poly book discussion group, with great online resources and book discussions!
5:00 Topic: Dirty, rotten cheaters
Amy Gahran’s sending me this internet poll on whether cybersex “counts” as cheating sparked a discussion/rant about what “cheating” actually is, both in monogamy and in polyamory. See how Wikipedia defines cheating.
Jeremy wrote in on jealousy from episode 133, blaming society; 18:30 Jamie comments on episode 134, the Love Maps episode, mentioning that the episode might have caused some uncomfortable introspection; 20:45 Scott comments on episode 87 and the idea of “discretion”; 23:00 ML asks for advice on what to do when a metamour breaks your heart–but is still dating your partner
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On Poly Weekly #132, PolyLizzie asked how other single poly parents found the time to be poly and meet potential partners. What a great question! Listener Jenny was cool enough to respond and give permission for her response to be posted here.
Parents (single and otherwise), what do you think?
‘m a single parent of a school age girl (now 9), and I work full-time as a writer for a computer software company. Although my situation is somewhat different from PolyLizzie (i.e., I’m not a full time student on top of everything else), I know well the feeling of never having enough time to do anything but survive day-to-day. Three years ago, I moved halfway across the US for a great job, leaving behind my parents, friends, and everyone my daughter knew since she was a baby. Where we live now, we have no family and no local support system — we are essentially alone here and I am pretty much the only engine that gets things done.
You asked for poly tips, but I think these could be applied to any relationship, poly or otherwise.
So, Tip #1: Establish a support system so you can make time for being poly. I think the concept of “making time” is important to understand, both for the single parent and for anyone interested in being with a single parent. The difference between “finding time” and “making time” is intentionality. If you try to “find time” to be poly as single parent, you’ll never have the time. Instead, you have to “make time” — that means making the firm decision that this is something you want to do and then arrange things to accommodate that.
Tip #2: Understand and accept you can’t do everything “right now”. Even though PolyLizzie may want to find poly partners, she’s also has to recognize her limitations in terms of time and work with them. That’s difficult because sometimes we really do need something (like a loving relationship) and we just can’t have it right now because of time. With work, school, and kids filling her time, PolyLizzie may not have any room for “making time” for a poly partner — meaning, at this time in her life she may not be able to arrange things to accommodate being actively poly. That was certainly true for me when I was a bit younger, and I wasn’t a full time student. And it truly sucked to put that off to “later”, but I had to. There were too many other things going on in my life and adding an adult relationship to the mix would have been disastrous for both me and my daughter.
Tip #3: Establish early on with poly partners that you are already in a relationship (with your kid) so that the poly relationship can progress accordingly. I know for myself this is non-negotiable. I also know that this can be a hard concept for people, poly or otherwise, to grasp. And frankly, NRE doesn’t help with that. Mind you, I’m not telling people “I’m a mom first and foremost and a woman whenever I have a spare moment” — quite the contrary. This is more of a clarion to say that time management is essential. So, if a partner is to show love and caring for a single parent, they must accept that certain things must be planned, not everything can be on-the-fly, and the kids have to factor in to a lot of decisions.
Tip #4: I don’t know if this would work for PolyLizzie, but I have found online or long distance relationships to be very helpful with regard to “having a social life” at my convenience. Granted, I’m not very social anyway, but in my view, sitting at my computer writing my heart in an email to my partner is several orders of magnitude better than hanging out in a bar or going out on a bad date. Indeed, the technology that exists now to make people feel closer than geographically possible is astounding. My partner of 4 years lives on the opposite side of the country and from the beginning we have communicated nearly every day via email, twitter, IM/webcam, and phone calls. Does this replace actually seeing my partner and sharing time with him and his wife? Of course not. But it does bridge the sometimes sizable gaps between visits, whether him to us or us to them.
I know for myself, long distance relationships have pretty much been the only way I can have an interesting, worthwhile relationship. The costs in time and effort associated with going out on my own just can’t be sustained for very long, financially and emotionally. And frankly, when you go out on enough truly bad dates, you really don’t feel like gambling your time any more than you absolutely have to. I mean, time spent on a bad date is almost like a personal attack because it’s time taken away from you and your kid. At least with something online, it’s a little easier to figure out who’s worth my time getting to know, and to cut loose those who would waste my time.